China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

The owner of the Chinese Tesla, it’s pretty miserable. He bought the Model 3, which sold for $430,000 and had to pay a purchase tax of $43,000. More than ten days after handing it over, Tesla is on the new energy tax-exempt list and no longer has to pay taxes. Delivery of less than half a year, the domestic Model 3 has been offline, the price is only 328,000. Half a year after the delivery of the car, the price of the domestic Model 3 is reduced to less than 300,000. But the price of the frequent drop is not all he has encountered. In his own words: (Tesla) harvested assets, and he’s going to reap lives…

It is what he did in the days before.

At the time, he was driving his Tesla, turning on AutoPilot’s fully autonomous feature, on the fast eastbound direction of Shenzhen Nanping road.

Suddenly, the scum truck on the right front suddenly came along, and his Model 3, under the control of the self-driving system, not only didn’t stop, but it was an acceleration.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

“By the time I react, it’s too late,” he said. Now he felt afraid and glad: only the head of the car was badly damaged, no major obstacles.

At the same time, he was angry:

The fully autonomous driving system, which he bought for $56, can’t even handle such a basic scenario.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

The experience has also given him a deeper understanding of Tesla’s self-driving system.

He said everyone must be careful to use the self-driving feature, the official did not say the relevant safety risks.

He documented his journey from buying Atesla to accidents, and he wanted Tesla to give a positive explanation.

Here’s his experience as a Tesla owner, reproduced by authorized editors.

Note: He solemnly promises that the following statements are personal experience, not half false, if there is a situation that does not meet the facts, he is willing to bear the corresponding legal responsibility.

Car purchase: 430,000 bought a Model 3 and the price has been falling

In May 2019, experienced a friend to buy the Model 3, the first test drive like, after a friend introduced all aspects of the advantages, I was moved.

Just in July, the official website has car discount activities, directly placed orders, and pay a deposit of 20,000. Until then, I didn’t know where the service center was, and I didn’t communicate with sales.

Tesla’s sales, after my successful order, contacted me by phone, we began to wechat communication.

Before paying the final payment, I hesitated to refund the deposit, domestic models will also be listed, and after the confirmation of sales, domestic prices and import prices are very close, not much space.

Based on previous endorsements of the Tesla brand, I believed in the sale, paid the final payment decisively, and then began the following story…

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

The invoice for the purchase of the car at that time

I chose the imported white all-wheel drive version of the Model 3. It also spent an extra $56,000 on an FSD, which is billed as “fully autonomous driving.”

Car (429900) and FSD (56000) ( Total Price of Naked Car) 485900 yuan.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash△完全自动驾驶能力 ¥56000

On August 19th, I couldn’t hold back my joy at lifting the car, which was located in Longhua No. 8. There was also a small episode when the car was picked up, with a small piece of paint on the body, and the delivery staff said it might have been scraped on the ship.

Before this, there are a lot of people in the Tesla spit slot pick-up car has all kinds of problems, I this and other people compared, it seems that nothing, I directly ignored, and then pick up the car to leave.

The delivery process was simple, without any flowers and cannons, and without any sense of ritual, the delivery staff only handed me the keys to the card, And I got in the car, with a foot of the accelerator, so flowing away…

Temporary cards in and out of the community is very troublesome, especially the doorman, English letter listening is not very clear, also not very good operation computer input … Every time in and out of the community is a very painful thing, I can’t wait to get on the card.

In the Tesla group, there was a lot of talk about the possibility of a tax exemption in September, and I found sales to confirm it, the sales promise to me is fake news, it can’t be tax-exempt, and in the circumstances of the time, Tesla is an American car, even less tax-exempt reason.

I think, it makes sense… So, I took out another 43,000 to pay taxes, and then hang a formal license plate, a week after the license plate, the mood is good, every time in and out of the community is like silk lubrication.

On September 1st, Tesla entered the new energy tax-exempt list, and has already paid tax refund, I am not good for the whole person…

After all, anyone’s money is not the wind, the mood or a moment, but think of at least for the national infrastructure to make some contributions, it is relieved.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

By this time, the purchase tax (43,000 yuan) plus the purchase of insurance (9700 yuan), only real lying, the total landing price of 429900 , 56000 , 43000 , 9700 , 538600.

Daily: Small problems constantly, fully autonomous driving is not nice

October, is a sunny day, look up, the sky is still blue, but it seems to be somewhat different than usual, a closer look, the original skylight more than a long crack.

Go to the (Tesla) service center to communicate the matter, the other side said it was stoned, but there is no dent on it, on a long crack.

The service center told me this is a two-story skylight, cracks in the outer layer, if there is a safety hazard, I can go to the designated sheet spray center to report their own insurance replacement of the new skylight.

Things are not big, I also did not go to the bottom of the root, and finally in the 8th warehouse flagship authorized after-sale point side of the deal, this has an insurance record, responsible for receiving Mr. Chen.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

There’s a long crack in the skylight.

Later, while driving on the road with an FSD, he encountered several “ghost brakes” – no obstacles in front of it, and suddenly stepped on the brakes.

This situation, other car owners have encountered, I have encountered several times at low speed, high-speed encounter once, high-speed that nearly was tailed, fortunately no accident, but also so passed.

Later, at 120km/h at high speeds, it didn’t recognize the “ice cream barrel” (the official didn’t tell me it didn’t recognize the ice cream tube before).

At that time, the overcarriage was repairing the road, closed with ice cream, I was using FSD autopilot, almost directly hit the road, but also close to the collision, I forced the lane.

Fortunately, the next lane is still a little distance away from the car, I immediately changethed the lane to accelerate can avoid, if the next side of the vehicle is a little bit forward, this will be another story.

In the end, it was safe to pass, and nothing bad happened.

Later learned that 2.5 hardware, even if the purchase of FSD fully autonomous driving capacity, is not recognized on the road ice cream barrel.

This time there is no accident, just frightened, also did not want to find the service center, thought will not have the result, but secretly let oneself be more vigilant later, so not, such a situation there are some car owners encountered, they are also not.

Below, I post a discussion on this aspect in the car owners group, please look objectively, does not represent my position that this is a universal problem, may only be a few of our talents encountered in the individual case.

Others who encounter similar situations can leave a message in the comments section, if it is a universal problem, but also hope to attract official attention, and give the corresponding solution.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

A part of a chat recording of a Tesla owner’s group across the country on July 2, 2020

Around March 2020, the price of domestic, there are subsidies, the heart of that taste, or quite sour, standard and long-range flights have been reducing prices, it seems that there may be continued to drop … (This I guess, no responsibility ha).

This will think of the sales oath to me, domestic can not reduce prices, the same price… Come on, don’t mention this sad thing… Let it pass with the wind.

April 2020, in the use of summoning function in front of friends play handsome time (calling in addition to this scene, usually I really did not expect where to use on, personally feel less reliable, really in the use of FSD owners should have their own experience … ), the car in front of the right has a small stone, do not know is too short or what reason, it did not recognize, directly scraped the past.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

I guess the obstacle is too short, probably not recognized, if the big car or something should not have a problem. After psychological comfort, this matter also passed, in the picture above this place is not obvious, no intention to deal with it alone.

Accident: The dirt truck was hit at high speed and accelerated into the road

On June 24, 2020, around 3 p.m., the wind and the sun were fine.

The next day is the Dragon Boat Holiday, driving the import of pearl white four-wheel drive Model3, galloping in the direction of the rapid eastbound direction of Nanping, Shenzhen, would have been happy to go home, but was a sudden accident broke.

At that time, I was driving Model3 in the middle lane, the most right lane in front of the obstacles, a large dirt truck turned to the road, FSD did not recognize the dirt truck, directly accelerate forward collision, acceleration moment, I sican, the reaction has been an accident.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

Nanping fast, is my commute every day in the road, usually I walk in the fast lane more, often there are cars in front of me to change lanes, as long as there is a car out of the head, Model 3 will take the initiative to brake.

Although the brake is relatively short, people in the car sitting feeling not comfortable, but at least will not hit the past, more will not accelerate the collision.

This time to refresh my awareness, large-scale dirt car lane, this goal is more obvious ah, than the car most of it?

Before the use of summoning function was scraped to the time, the small stone stone did not recognize, may be too short, but now such a tall dirt truck, it actually did not recognize?

Dirt car change dissoah, do not brake even, to maintain the existing speed is also good ah, at least I can have the reaction time to deal with, but it actually suddenly accelerated hit the past.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

I can’t bear to break out, this seriously endangers the safety of life, if the speed is fast or accelerate to the car under the slag truck rolled over, my next game is not good to say.

I implore Tesla officials to respond positively and explain to the general user that the self-driving car failed to identify the large dirt truck and accelerated the crash!

There was a small surprise after the crash, with a plastic bag strapped to the sensor, which reminded me of some of the rumors at last year’s U.S. factory.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

Give it a close-up, and the Tesla Service Center suspects it was authorized to add a sheet spray center.

Questionable: Disagree with Tesla’s view that there is no anomaly and will continue to defend its rights

Tesla believes that their FSD hardware and data analysis are not unusual.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

Screenshot of chat with service center staff

He also called me earlier to explain a lot about how FSD works and what caused the accident.

Personally, I do not approve, nor accept, these have a call recording, followed by release. I was told later that there was nothing unusual about data analysis.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

Screenshot of chat with service center staff

The staff explained it to me with the small lettering of the red box line.

China Tesla owner: Fully autonomous driving almost killed the dirt truck and the line accelerated to crash

The title is headlined with full ycapability, official similar publicity, various forms of insinuation that users have full ycapability.

Then some very basic scenarios, will deal with errors, users after a car accident, lucky to get feedback on this screenshot, not lucky directly. . . of course I belong to the former.

I am also in the car active monitoring, but also concentrated, as long as not to pit me ah, FSD why suddenly accelerate to hit?

After all, people have a certain reaction time, it does not slow down even, to maintain the existing speed forward, I also have time to deal with.

But suddenly such an acceleration, I was caught off guard, in a person can predict the scene, it suddenly unexpected acceleration, this moment, really will be sad, this unexpected people can not react.

If it is to say that this road conditionised, then it feels that the road conditions are complex, uncertain time, should not slow down, why is its approach to acceleration?

This is certainly self-driving hardware or software is not rigorous, the scene is not well considered, or the algorithm has a loophole and other reasons lead to this situation.

There is also communication with Tesla. If the official clear not to deal with the issue of autonomous driving safety accidents, I will take further steps to legally protect rights.

All kinds of problems I have tolerated, life-threatening safety, can not tolerate sloppy, I stand very firm, will adhere to the end!

The rights are still going on, and a number of owners who have had similar encounters have privately sent me the relevant accident records, and at the right time we joined forces to launch a legal action.

Note: Finally, the owner of the car also stressed to us again that the information he has released is sufficient evidence to bear the corresponding legal responsibility.